Running Hermes with local LLMs via Ollama vs cloud APIs is a real trade-off decision. Here is the breakdown.
The Two Paths
Cloud APIs (Default)
- Use OpenRouter, Anthropic, OpenAI, Kimi, MiniMax, etc.
- Pay per token
- Requires internet
- Higher capability, more expensive
Ollama Local
- Run on your hardware
- Hardware costs only
- Fully offline capable
- Lower capability, free per-token
Capability Comparison
| Task | Cloud LLM | Local (7B-13B) | Local (27B) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Simple file management | ✅ | ✅ | ✅ |
| Basic research | ✅ | ⚠️ | ✅ |
| Complex reasoning | ✅ | ❌ | ⚠️ |
| Code generation | ✅ | ⚠️ | ✅ |
| Browser automation | ✅ | ⚠️ | ⚠️ |
| Multi-step tasks | ✅ | ❌ | ⚠️ |
7B-13B local LLM support handle simple workflows. 27B handles more. But cloud models (GPT-4, Claude) are still significantly better for complex agentic work.
Privacy: Local Wins
| Aspect | Cloud | Local |
|---|---|---|
| Data leaves your machine | Yes (to provider) | No |
| Works offline | No | Yes |
| For sensitive work | Needs caution | Fully private |
ChatGPT trains on your data unless you opt out. Local Ollama: zero data leaves.
Cost Comparison
| Setup | Monthly Cost |
|---|---|
| Cloud (Kimi) | $3-5 |
| Cloud (MiniMax flat) | $10 |
| Cloud (OpenRouter mixed) | $15-25 |
| Local (existing hardware) | $0 |
| Local (VPS with 4GB) | $24/mo |
| Local (GPU instance) | $40-80/mo |
When to Use Local
- Privacy-critical work (legal, medical, financial)
- Learning/experimentation (no per-token cost)
- Simple, repeated tasks
- Offline capability needed
When to Use Cloud
- Complex reasoning needed
- Best capability for the task
- You need GPT-4/Claude class reasoning
- Cost is not a concern
Hybrid Approach (Recommended)
Many users do both:
- Cheap cloud (Kimi, MiniMax) for routine agentic tasks
- Local for privacy-sensitive work
- Premium cloud (Claude) only for complex reasoning
Switch with hermes model.
Benchmark Scores (Community)
From Discord benchmark discussions:
| Model | TAU2 Score |
|---|---|
| Qwen 3.5 27B | 79% |
| Gemma 4 31B | 76.9% |
| GLM | Above 99% |
GLM scores highest but requires GPU. Qwen performs well on local hardware.
The Real Answer
Start with cloud APIs (cheap ones like Kimi or MiniMax). Migrate to local when you have hardware that can handle it and need privacy.
Ollama setup Privacy guide Compare to Ollama
FAQ
Can I mix both?
Yes — switch models with hermes model.
Does local affect memory/skills? No — those work the same regardless of provider.